Gilera Runner 209 ccm Quattro valve

Velo · 20 June 2008

Steven#36 said:
Did you ever measured the power output when it was still a stock 180cc?
I'm curious about the increase of power.

I know a stock 180cc 2 stroke has 17,5 hp so over 24 hp is a very nice score with a 210cc 4 stroke!

Are the 'only' "power effective" adjustments you've made to reach this the malossi 210cc, camshaft, valves+springs, digitronic, in- and outlet channel modifications and the exhaust?

Are the 'spiebanen' (don't know the english word , if you don't understand i will look it up ) of the malossi torque drive straight? I thougt to see on the pics on the malossi site that there was still a curve in it?

I'm asking because i'm also looking to do something like this

Btw, a German firm called Kübler sells a 244cc kit for the vx(r). This is a 72mm bore and 60mm stroke cilinder from a piaggio quasar engine.

The kit includes the cilinder+piston (same bore as the stock 200cc but, higher), 60mm stroke crackshaft (modified, to fit the runner ignition) and the other parts you need to fit it to your engine like a longer camshaft-chain etc. Cost just under 600 euro, maybe something for you?

I have never mesured it plain stock from the box. But it gained some with the exhaust and the roller adjustment.

Conserning power. There is allso a 34 mm Poweret Dell'orto mountet to it with a modified Posh inlet funnel. Combined with a Denso U31ET-R Spark plug.

The 'spiebanen' are stright. The same is the stock but in a more moderate angle. I went down a couple of grams in roller weights because of the change.

Thanks about info on the Crank shaft. But I allready have a Malossi crank for it. (Thoght not mounted yet... Race season you know ;-) ) The next thing for it is an additional cooler. The stock cooler isn't big enough for it.

Velo · 14 July 2008

Now with a decent track video
http://www.motorcykelgalleri.dk/html/vid_vis.asp?VideoID=3517

Red class on sturup Raceway.
It lacks power on the streights (like a 100 BHP) but it does the track in a nice 1.19 sek. (A CBR600 F2 Trackbike does it in 1.16 and a New R6 with a fast rider does it in 1.09 sek.)
So I am pleased though I need more power for my next visit.

Velo · 21 July 2008

Hmm. I would have done well at the 24 Hour event.
Maybe next year...

Velo · 4 August 2008

Now with Malossi full Cracnkshaft and H profile con rod.

Now some intense Dynoing will follow!

Ps. An in action photo

Steven#36 · 1 November 2008

What type of exhaust do you use? Is it an aftermarket exhaust or did you take a motorbike muffler en welded a new exhaust pipe?

Snelle aaP · 1 November 2008

I like this runner, one of the nicest ive ever seen
Everything clean and new, my compliments

Will cost you a fortune or not

eurokit · 1 November 2008

OMG that bikes that you have :love: -:- :winner:

GT40GearHead · 2 November 2008

i love this build log and you're bike !

i also have great interest in you're because of a personal reason...

i'm currently fighting with an engine swap in my scooter http://forum.scooterforum.net/forum/f88/suzuki-katana-engine-swap-=-160076/

could you tell me where did you get the crank and conrod ?

Velo · 3 November 2008

Steven#36 said:
What type of exhaust do you use? Is it an aftermarket exhaust or did you take a motorbike muffler en welded a new exhaust pipe?

The Exhaust is a Scorpion made and E marked (Mit ABE) for the Runner VXR.
I have taken out the dB killer that was inside it and re packed it.
It kind og melted for me on the dyno.

The crank is a Malossi H-pleul and is bought through www.speedline.dk by order and prepayment (Because it isn't a normal part in their stock)

Unfortunetly I mounted a to thick gasket at the foot of the cylinder (english word needed!) when I swapped the cranks, so power has went down to 21 Rear wheel Horse Power.

Low power or not, it was one of the fastet round the track at SAWE 08.

And it made a lot of smoke too.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g704DzrJ4yg"]YouTube - Scooter Weekend 2008 - guming[/ame] saturday evening burnout (Thanks for the tread you head Mr. Hood!)

Take a look at this clip too. It is down the main stright.
At aprox. 17 sek. in the clip I am going past with around 130-140 km/h (speedo!)
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct59mWlPQo0"]YouTube - Scooter Weekend[/ame]

Velo · 3 November 2008

GT40GearHead said:
i love this build log and you're bike !

i also have great interest in you're because of a personal reason...

i'm currently fighting with an engine swap in my scooter http://forum.scooterforum.net/forum/f88/suzuki-katana-engine-swap-=-160076/

could you tell me where did you get the crank and conrod ?

Nice projekt. But I haven't realy any good help for you.
You should try and get hold of an original wirering and elektrickwork that suits the engine.

Velo · 20 December 2008

Vinter time is Projekt time.
Both my rear tires where burned down and beyond at SAWE so new pieces of rubber is mounted. A new exhaust is bought too. It looks nice.

An overall tjeck up and some new fluids would be nice.
A big fat Delta clutch is bought too.
Now I am just wondering. If there is enough funds for my other plans...:winner:

fux 505 · 20 December 2008

The best 4-t scooter project

apriliafan · 20 December 2008

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fux 505 said:
The best 4-t scooter project

I must agree XD

Velo I didnt know that u ve had a project here

keep it up and let us see some progress...
As mentioned before i hope to meet u in Asserballe on track in april..we couldnt race yet really ^^

Velo · 15 April 2009

apriliafan said:
I must agree XD

Velo I didnt know that u ve had a project here

keep it up and let us see some progress...
As mentioned before i hope to meet u in Asserballe on track in april..we couldnt race yet really ^^

See you on Saturday.

Update on its way.
New Exhaust
New Clutch
New front kaliber and brakeline
SSP Gen. 3 Aerox brake levers
New oils
Polini 9 Rollers on the desk waiting
Motomaster Flame Rear disk
MHR Sinter Race pads rear
Malossi Airfilter

And hopefully. More than 21 BHP this time.

black-rider · 15 April 2009

4T tuning,I like the project

What is the maximum speed with this Setup?

Velo · 15 April 2009

The fastest I have driven it is 164 km/t after the speedometer.

Wich is around a genuine 140+ km/h

black-rider · 15 April 2009

Velo said:
The fastest I have driven it is 164 km/t after the speedometer.

Wich is around a genuine 140+ km/h

very good watch acceleration from 0-100 9 seconds, an excellent

Which exhaust system do you mean, now put?

Velo · 15 April 2009

black-rider said:
very good watch acceleration from 0-100 9 seconds, an excellent

Which exhaust system do you mean, now put?

I have bought a new Scorpion stainless for it. Sounds nice and can still make flames. :-D

apriliafan · 16 April 2009

Velo said:
See you on Saturday.
.

Yes indeed see u on saturday,will u come with both bikes?

Velo · 17 April 2009

Hmm. Bad news. The old exhaust is +2 BHP more powerfull than the new. Damn.

I think I'll clone them. New Exhaust with big fat hole trough. Or maybe I can find a Akrapovic for it. That could be cool.

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