I confince people i change stuff with my jetski partsI dont say that RPM make an half fabrica production of these suspensions only for s6. I think, which is most likely, that they bought the rpm springs finsihed up, like they are ment to be from the rpm company. And them, afterwards, they changed some stuff.
It means you can charge a lot more for the same product
The reality is nothing gets changed , but it makes for percived value
Didnt some one suggest that they sent this shock to ollins to modify after they buy it off another shock company
I confince people i change stuff with my jetski parts
It means you can charge a lot more for the same product
The reality is nothing gets changed , but it makes for percived value
Didnt some one suggest that they sent this shock to ollins to modify after they buy it off another shock company
Maybe you do, but that donøt change the fact that several people have said, that they have been testing this exact suspension, so give some feedback on it, in the early days of 08'.
I am happy for you to believe that stage 6 get the shock then pull it apart and rechange the valving thus voiding the warranty before they sell it to you
I believe they get the shock with the stage 6 logo on it and sell it straight to you at a much increased price
Just because some one writes they test rode it and changed the settings doesnt mean squat
I have test ridden it as well and played with dampening adjustment as well
Im not so sure why you are so keen to make people believe its not the same
ethier you have brought some stage 6 shocks and feel upset about it or you have a vested interst in trying to let stage 6 keep there price up there for some reason
Let me put it this way
People that are saying they are not the same
Do you guys understnad how a shock works
Its there to dampen the occilations caused by the wheels going up and down
Well this shock has high and low speed dampening you can easily go from not enough to to much
It has ride stiffness adjustment as well as ride height
It has two sets of springs to let you dial it in
Now tell me what stage6 could have changed, the adjustment screws?? the colour?? the name on the side maybe??
Evene though rs24-rs24-10 has the preload/rebound and compression (in case of 2410), its not realy funktion in that way in real life. The gab between the adjustments, the oil compression etc. just isnt the same on every shock. You will be told just the same if you go to a shock specialist, its actually some pretty weak shocks (but of course we should not overkill parts only made for racingsccooters).
The argument about weither these shocks are the same as stage6 or not is fruitless
The people that believe they arent will continue to line the pockets of the people at stage 6
The people that think they are the same will continue to email and pm me
Lets leave it at that
Ask the stage6 guys what they changed
If they tell you they went for a lighter spring then that will be the 160lb spring that came with the shock as a spare as well
but i bet they come baxk with update valving , ask them when they change it after rpm make the shocks for them or do they get rpm to change it for them before they deliver
But if stage6 went back to rpm and said can you change the shock to make it better it stands to reason that rpm does this to all the shocks they sell now
Wouldnt you agree with that
That makes way to much sensehere is my take on the subject.
RPM is the manufacturer of suspensions.
S6 is a trading company & wants to sell suspension under their name so they outsource these suspension from RPM.
RPM builds a few prototype shocks & forks for testing & evaluation for S6.
S6 tests them using their sponsored teams & tuners, S6 gets feedback from the riders & tuners & sends it back to RPM.
RPM, now with the new information in hand, makes a few changes in the valving or just the thickness of the shims to change the damping characteristics of the suspension.
RPM sends a new set of prototype shocks & forks with the updates to S6, S6 now gives it to their riders & tuners for another round of testing & evaluation.
finally the riders & tuners are satisfied & give the thumbs up to S6, S6 now orders the suspension from RPM using the updates, RPM builds it to their quota & puts the S6 name on the suspension then ships it to S6 in Europe.
for me at least, RPM will not retool their machines to produce their own brand of suspension, they will simply use what they have already to cut costs, this is how the Taiwanese & Chinese work, that is how marketing works.
That makes way to much sense
I figure your right on the money with that
Mine is a copy of the stage6 made by the same company that makes stage6 parts ???who gives a shit?
None of u can tell for sure what are the exact diffrences...
the best way to find out is to confrotate stage6 self,ask for thilo from scooterattack,he ll be able to tell u for sure cuz he was one of the main people who actually took place on that development.
Producing in in asia is one thing,development a totally diffrent thing.
U guys really dont think that most of the parts have been tested and developed by rpm?
rpm only produces them like million other parts/companies who are produced over there cuz of their cheap costs.
The people over there are far away from the european standart,and only because they produce products that dont make them or give them the honor of being the "inventer".
SO dont forget that they are ONLY and ONLY the producers....
Sony cameras are produced in china as well and no1 talks (when ppl talk about quality n stuff) about that they come from china,no all japanese!.
What i m trying to tell is that it makes a huge diffrence who produces the products and who invents/develop them.
Producing these shocks would be possible in any other european country as well,but its just too expensive.
Therefore,(also if rpm produces them) its still an stage6 suspension for me(and i got it).
Its obvious that many things are/will be copied cuz its also somehow limited right?
I dont understand that argue here,especially from u waxhead,if u dont know for sure than stop throwing with ur speculations around here,this wont help any1.As long as u r happy with ur copy,so let it be and dont waste ur time on argueing.
Simply pointless.
AND EVEN it there would be no diffrence(which i doubt) i d still buy an stage 6 susp. cuz than i know where i am at.
Btw,all the positive feedback from italian,german and dutch race drivers dont lie,and within 6 month u ll read a lot more positive feedbacks.