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Gilera Runner 209 ccm Quattro valve

Discussion in 'Scooter Projects' started by Velo, 19 November 2007.

  1. scorp

    scorp New Member

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    ...report pls *D

    What have you change (variator, clutch...) on your gilera?


    regards
     
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  3. mareknoda

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    Hello 8),

    what setup is the better to city?

    Malossi 210
    Head V4 Head
    Malossi Springs
    Malossi cam
    Malossi Valves + valve springs
    Original carb
    Primary gear polini

    or

    Cylinder Kit-KB-RACING-Piaggio 300cc LC Leader
    Original Head
    Malossi Springs
    Malossi cam
    Malossi Valves + valve springs
    Original carb
    Primary gear polini

    thx :)
     
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  5. astraopc

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    I'd say THE kubler kit, more power less revs...


     
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  6. mareknoda

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    Hello,

    Malossi setup
    Primay gear original
    Secondary gear original


    Speed 120km/h |(koso)
    Acceleration good

    Malossi setup
    Primay gear original
    Secondary gear Malossi


    Speed 140km/h (koso)
    Acceleration poor

    Malossi setup
    Primay gear Polini
    Secondary gear original


    what will with acceleration?
     
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  7. Velo

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    You should think about some stiffer clutchsprings.
    If it is slow up to f.x. 30 og 40 km/h you need stiffer springs for the clutch
    If it is overall slower, you need lighter rollers.
     
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  8. WDJ

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    hello velo
    my scooter is super hexagon gtx125. it has chip key and cdi with immobiliser.
    i want remove it and use a malossi cdi without immobiliser, can i?
    becuse i have already bought a malossi cdi without immobiliser. maybe i bought a wrong parts?
     
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  9. WDJ

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    hello velo i have 2 questions want to get your answer.
    1, piaggio 300cc engine bore 75 stroke 63 and 250cc engine bore 72 stroke 60
    63-60=3mm
    quasar 250cc crankshaft + quasar 300cc cylinder = cut quasar 300cc cylinder short 3mm, they will fit and can get more compression, right?
    75/60, big bore and small stroke, only 13cc less, more top rpm= more power, right? maybe can get more power then the 75/63.
    what are you think?
    2, more guys use malossi power cam for the 244cc-278cc, right?
    is it good?malossi said the malossi power cam fit 125-210cc, but they don't said it fit 244-278cc. are you sure the malossi cam can good work and get more power for the 244-278cc? what about the quasar 250-300cc cam? i think maybe it can good work better than the malossi. btw it is very cheap. on the www.scooter-center.com i also find a kubler cam kit, we use the kubler 244-278cc cylinder kit, so maybe it is a good one.
    what are you think?
     
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  10. joey!!

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    nice project and the race's and movies looks so cool :D
     
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  11. Velo

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    #1 sounds plausible. Go for it.
    #2 I don't know wich cam is the best for 278 setup, But i use the Malossi cam in my setup and I think it pumps quite a punch with 27 bhp in the rear wheel.

    Sorry about the lack of respons at the time. ;-)
     
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  12. WDJ

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    velo thank you for your reply and you have a very nice runner and a great project / setup. i want have a project for 4v 250cc after see your project.

    1. i am going it now
    2. i will try 300cc cam first, if it not good i will buy malossi one.

    and new problem: we know the torque driver was the same on 125 and 200cc models till 2002, then from 2003 they've used different model.
    so do you know what is the different for the 125 and 200cc torque drive from 2003?
    is the diameter of torque driver? dose just like piaggio zip old model 128mm torque and new model 134mm? why the 125 200cc engines have different v-belt? i think the engines have same length because they have same engine transmission cover.

    btw i think you maybe order maloss 4v head 25mm/22.2mm valves for your original head, right? i do it now.
     
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  13. mmj20

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    very nice

    looks amazing :O
     
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    hi guys.. just want to check.. will a FCR 39mm (slant-body) fit onto an 05' Gilera VXR 200..? Thanks..
     
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  15. Velo

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    Depends on manifold Diameter... And will power
     
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    Jandro, i`ve saw you tested alot of exaust...what can you recommand?
    What brand/model
    i think leo vince 4 road is ok...but not the best!
    can you tell me what exaust to buy?
    what exaust do you have now on your runner?
    Best Regards!
     
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  17. Velo

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    You chould have bought the other model.
    BUT

    If you read through the pages here. Chri$h is posting how you can make it work anyway;-)
     
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  18. Velo

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    First, this is just a theory, I think it is different because the small engines need more rews to do the job. and
    Second, I think the 200+ parts a stronger and can better handle the power.

    If you order OZ valves for the stock head. Then remeber it is a lot of work changing them and making them fit.
     
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  19. Velo

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    Though I'am not Jandro. I think at the moment the Leovince SBK is the best and coolest Exhaust for the Leader engine.
     
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  20. Velo

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    Very nice head.
    Where can I follow your project?
     
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  21. RunnerST125

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    Hi again.

    Hi again !i need ur help velo,what exhaust and carb should i use now??
    my setup:Malossi 209/Malossi head//Malossi cam//Malossi secondary gears//Malossi variator//Malossi kevlar//.

    plz tell me what exhaust and carb will be better for me...and if i need to use malossi digitronic !
     
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